Lab М. Erickson – Hypnosis in Psychiatry – The Ocean Monarch Lecture

 

 

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[Текст лекции Милтона Эриксона восстановлен и соответствует оригиналу]

~…  not necessarily to demonstrate hypnosis [that] to discuss its use in psychiatry
~however, the use of hypnosis in psychiatry actually applies to the use of hypnosis in any other medical field,
~whether dental, dermatology, or whatever it might be
~now going to need searching general state that about  hypnosis
~the first things I want to impress upon you
~is one way of thinking about your patients clinically
~[in] is desirable to think that way because of the ease of concept formation for them.
~I like to regard my patients as having a conscious mind and an unconscious,
~or subconscious, mind
~and  I expect the two to be together in the same person
~and I expect both of them to be in the office with me
~I also expect when I am talking to a person at the conscious level
~I expect him to be listening to me at an unconscious level, as well as consciously
~and therefore I am not very greatly concerned about the depth of the trance the patient  desing
~because I find that one can do extensive and deep psychotherapy
~in the light trance as well as in the deeper medium trance
~one merely needs to know how to talk to a patient in order to secure therapeutic results
~now the next thing I want to stress  and I think this is somethings is shoot be stress  over and over again by the panel
~and stress by each if you in a roan? daily practice
~[a?] tremendous need a  working out
~a method of suggestion
~in working out  my own technique,
~I worked out what I felt was a good hypnotic technique it was 30 typewritten pages, single-spaced,
~of the various types of suggestions necessary to induce a deep trance
~and then I slowly cut it down from 30 typewritten pages single-spaced to 25, to 20, to 15, to 10, to 5, and so on,
~so that I could use the whole 30 pages or I could use just one page or one paragraph
~but I learned thoroughly how to
~graduate my suggestions, and how to lead from one suggestion to another an that is somethings  that you really ought to do [03:28]
~because home one does that sort of thing, one learns how to follow the leads given by his patient
~now  in inducing in a trance in your psychiatric patient of that matter in a over type of patient,
~it is the fashion in which you present the suggestion is to the patient
~now of some of you I demonstrate is matter of  take hold of a wrist
~too often a grab hold of a wrist and lift it up forcibly
~and yet than I [дивед] hand levitation reveal? lift it [полинз] hand
~I did in a very very gentle fashion
~so that there is just a suggestion that I was lifting the arm, and just a suggestion that I am trying to move it this way or that way
~and the more gentle you can be in the physical touch of the arm, when you are lifting it up in the air to induce catalepsy,
~the more effective it is
~that any forcible seizure of the patient’s arm
~a causes you do had difficulty
~because you want to stimulate the patient to be responsive to you
~hypnosis is primarily
~a state in which there is increased responsiveness to ideas of all sorts and one employs that responsiveness
~not by trying to force, but by trying to elicit
~an immediate response and to elicit it by having the patient participate
~in exactly the same way,
~I do not like this matter of telling a patient,
~I want you to get tired and sleepy
~and get tired and sleepier
~because that is an effort to force your wishes upon the patient
~that is an effort to dominate the patient
~it is much better to suggest that they can get tired,
~that they can get sleepy,
~that they can go into a trance
~and  it is always a matter of offering them an opportunity
~of responding to an idea
~for a more an hypnosis one patients usually have an idea[s] pure powerful tool
~that can  be  compel  to do things
~and I like to approach my psychiatric patients whether they are neurotic,
~a just  emotionally disturbed, prepsychotic,
~or even psychotic
~I likes to [unproved?] them  in a fashion
~that lets them feel free to respond to whatever degree that they wish
~I never tell a patient [very? ] has to go into a deep trance, or  a medium trance, or for that matter into a light trance.
~I suggest also that he never tell me anything more
~than he really wants to tell me.
~I usually tell my patient that he can withhold whatever he wishes, and to be sure to withhold
~whatever he wishes.
~I am [burning there out?]  because I want you to have some understanding of positive and negative suggestions.
~to tell a patient, “Now, tell me all,” is a rather threatening thing
~[and soon?] even dangerous thing to do to patient.
~rather, you want the patient
~to be willing to tell you this, willing to tell you that, and is they star/t? telling you this and that, a begin to develop a certain sense of confidence.
~now then of course she found patient [is god] good rapport this you a good situations this you
~they ring? you can take the dominant attitude.
~but one really ought to be rever? cautious.
~flash do you my bring in [near glass] a water please
~so using positive and negative suggestions, one tries to make it possible for the patient
~to exercise his own ambivalence for your benefit and for his benefit
~is willing to secure help from you, that his also unwilling
~and so you try to define the situation for him
~so  that he can get help in one direction and so  that he can refuse help in another situation.
~and that way the patient has a readiness to go along with you
~now in hypnotizing the psychiatric patient
~I think one of the important things to do first is to establish a good conscious rapport this a patient
~Let him know that you are definitely interested in him
~and definitely interested in using hypnosis if in your judgment you think it will help.
~So often you have patients come in and demand that they be hypnotized,  now  usually counter with the statement that
~it is better for the doctor to prescribe [run them for?] the patient.
~And that surely if they need hypnosis, if that can benefit from ask
~I [сетенли] will employ it
~And then I ask their permission to employ it in the way that is most helpful to them.
~And what have I really suggested
~I have suggested that it be employed in a way most helpful to them
~Usually I go through the preliminary explanation that they are going to remain conscious
~But I point out to them that the fact that they can hear the clock wall
~that they can see the bookcases in the room, that they can hear any disturbing sounds,
~is rather unimportant thing
~they be essential thing is that they pay attention,
~not necessarily to me,
~but to pay attention  [to there?] own thoughts
~especially the thoughts that flash through their mind
~And the manner and the sequence in which those thoughts flash through their mined
~now  hypnosis is something that allows you to manipulate
~the personality manipulate the personality in its various ways of functioning one can ask a patient in the trance state to remember something of the past,
~or to speculate upon the future,
~or to do anything and to shift from one gear solders? speed
~to another gear
~Too often there is an attempt
~to follow through in a consistent way on one particular problem
~long after the patient has become too fatigued or too disturbed emotionally to do that
~I think hypnotic [lee?] one [ot?]  to  realize that you can  allows you to come back
~to a particular idea, or fear, or anxiety
~and never  to ask a patient to experience too much
~distress or emotional discomfort
~at any one time. [12:00]
~Now [форест?]  some of the uses of hypnosis in psychiatry
~The first [magic?] the primary, use of it should be in establishing
~a good personal relationship with the patient.
~Because once you have hypnotized somebody they have a feeling very problem they taken trust you and you [от] to give them the opportunity of discovering that they can trust you.
~Therefore, I usually ask patients in the hypnotic trance
~some question that I know they should not answer right them I ask a question, and before they can possibly answered
~hear it out to them that it is a question that should not yet be answered,
~and that they ought not to answer it until the right time comes along
~Then I ask them to think about what out said.
~And resulted […]  think in is
~[That they?]  decide  that they can answer questions freely and easily,
~but that they are [under?] no compulsions to answer a question
~before the right time comes
~I [ do …] the waking state
~I do in the trance state, because you are dealing with a person who has both a conscious mind and an unconscious mind
~Is a never important thing in psychiatry
~And the use of hypnosis just  because you downgrade work of you patient in a deep trance
~does not mean that the patient will benefit from it in the ordinary waking state
~There has to be an integration
~of unconscious learnings with conscious learnings
~And that should be foremost in your mind whenever you use hypnosis
~on psychiatric patients. You can recognize that you can resolve a conflict, a phobia, or an anxiety
~in the trance state but unless you do something about it
~in the waking state, the patient is still likely to have that anxiety or phobia.

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~[…] remove a phobia for a certain color in the trance state
~so that the patient can behaves normally
~nevertheless, when he [ awakens from] the trance state,
~they still have conscious habit patterns of response
~to that particular thing
~and [беф] they you have to integrate the unconscious learnings with the conscious learnings.
~in recovering a traumatic experiences
~a the girl developed to fear the colored blue
~because she so sister [a on the sister ] nearly drown use decidedly blue in appearance.
~The patient didn’t really recover from [.э.] even motion [did] handle anything blue looked anything blue on a trance state
~she did’t really recover [and too? on a ?] waking state
~she had a feeling of conscious comfort
~[and] [while] dealing with blue cloth and blue colors of all sorts
~she did not necessarily [had] [need] to have a complete knowledge of her sister’s near drowning,
~but she did [have] [need] to have an awareness
~that blue used to be associated with decidedly in comfortable feeling
~on soon always in dealing with patients
~you good to [спекулейтед] [пан] the need of integrate [him] unconscious learning this conscious learnings
~and do need to decide [high рапедли] thoroughly you should do that
~now never think about hypnosis is this [that ] [you] can divide [out/up] your patient’s problems
~there is
~a patient [this] some traumatic experience in the past which has resulted […] a phobic reaction or an anxiety state. [02:11]
~one can put him in a deep trance and suggest that he recover only
~the emotional well use of that experience
~the emotional aspects of that experience
~a just is in the past demonstrate [the f[l]ight?] [to] hypnotic subjects
~can have in motion I have one of my demonstration subjects
~aa recover all the merriment of a joke
~without knowing what the joke was the subject this laughed [02:49]
~and yet my subject laughed and laughed in most aaa merriest fashion
~over the joke,
~wondering at the time what the joke was and later I let my subject remember what the joke was
~in other words, one can split off the intellectual aspects of a problem
~and leave only the emotional
~aspects [of a] problem
~one can have a patient cry
~out very thoroughly about the emotional aspects [of a] traumatic experience
~and them? let [them?] him recover the actual intellectual content of the traumatic experience
~or one can do it in a jigsaw fashion that is let him recover a little bit of the intellectual content of the traumatic experience of the past [03:48]
~a little bit of the intellectual content
~a little bit of the emotional content not necessarily connected [парс] [03:54]
~[? a they she that …] you [so] ?] let the young medical student
~see the pitchfork,
~and then you [then] let him feel the pain experienced [an] gluteal regions,
~and then you let him see the color green,
~and then you let him feel himself stiff and rigid,
~and in a horror five fashion? and stiffness and rigidity
~and a jigsaw fashion and recovered an entire traumatic experience
~that was governing his behavior in medical school [04:34]
~and that his handicapping in very seriously if forgotten traumatic experience
~of this childhood
~this possibility also of [producing a complete] inducing a complete memory of traumatic experiences
~and then inducing an amnesia for it
~often patients come to you not knowing why they are unhappy or distressed
~or disturbed in any way
~a just [one a …] a just [..] a run unhappy and give you a wealth of rationalizations [for…?]
~aa things aren’t going right, the mortgage is too much of a burden,
~aa the job is too difficult, when actually it may be the father relationship, the mother relationship,
~of their childhood.

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One can actually regress the Patient, return them to the childhood, get him to remember things they [over did] to never day
Then she the call the memory of [bearing] at the kitten in the ground
And the lesson so mereling [thinking shoose and a horoble??? ] cratchen
One can secure all of that information from the patient
and have in complete understanding of many things about your patient,
and yet awaken the patient
with a total amnesia for hot they had told you.
That you [man of ?] that your patient talking about
The patient doesn’t know what he is talking about,
You do and therefore, you can guide the patient’s thinking
And are speaking [antulia??? approach] the actual problem more and more closely
You can detect the significant words [so that you] understand hot they [arry?] talking about.
And […?] regard, you need the practice of repeatedly [crying?] to get a patient to talk about something in ordinary, everyday life.
You need the practice [if usen?] normal hypnotic subjects
And crying to get them to talk about the lighting, in the corner of the room.
Not [because] its [important?] but how can you guide them to talking about it lighting in the corner of the room
You merely need to observe [ their] ordinary utterances and casual conversation.
And emphasize the fact that all of a sudden said the word corner,
and you wonder why.
And [..] soon, they will say something is light, and very shortly you can have them talking about the lighting in the corner of the room.
It is a matter of directing them.
And as long as you know some of the traumatic past of the subject,
you can guide every one of your remarks to them
Now corners some of the [obstacles that you will encounter?????] need to do in using hypnosis?

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Your patients in the psychiatric field are often exceedingly difficult.
They fearful to begin with, they are distressed—
And they do not know how to handle themselves or they would not be your patient.
You can employ all of the various hypnotic phenomena.
I can recall one of my patients who came to me
And try do spent the time and explaining to me
that he just could not talk to me.
There was nothing he had to say,
if felt too [miserable] to be able to have any thoughts
And my stay [My response] was simply this: That he could go into a light trance
and experience some rather interesting and rather helpful phenomena.
He agreed that he needed some help, but he didn’t know how to get it.
And so, in an apparently random fashion, I stated that I could place a chair right there,
that it would be just about so far from the bookcase,
about so far from the door,
about so far from my desk,
and it would be really very nice to sit in that chair
and be able to talk
when sitting in that chair.
and my patient tended to agree with me that if there were a chair there,
it would be so far from the bookcase,
it would be so far from my desk,
it would be so far from the door. [01:44]
now there I [gotten] [I had] elicited three excellent agreements from my patient
and then the statement that if he were sitting in the chair in such-and-such a relationship,
he might find it helpful to him
in talking
of course he risked nothing by saying that he might find it helpful
if he sat there in that chair—since there was no chair [they?]
I had not had him hallucinate one.
I just having [had him] imagine it
just as all of you can [02:18]
But what is the subject really doing he is agreeing with me
without knowing it
that in a different position in the office he then funded helpful and he then funded possible
for him to talk free
and then I suggested that it was impossible for him too
really, to talk in this chair
the one that he was sitting in
and all that would be necessary for him to do would be to take the chair, and put it over there,
and sit down,
and start talking
and I’ve had my patient more than once pick up his chair,
move it to another side of the room,
and immediately begin discussing his problems and giving me the information he needed to give.
because he left all of his resistances in the room orientation that he had when sitting in this chair
but by sitting in that chair
which his this the moved over there, he saw the room in a different way entirely. [03:31]
In the specially differently orientated
And [вор] ever you can do to alter the orientation of your patients
Psychiatrically in the office aids them tremendously
in communicating with you
and examining their problems
hypnotically, of course, it is very easy to induce a deep trance
and reorient then completely,
to depersonalize them
That […] is why emphasize the importance to all of you,
no matter what field of medicine you in,
to work with normal subjects
and if you living color’s [town?] you [rest in town] ought togever touch psychology tunes
[…] have a group a normal subjects will interested this him you can work
And living times and this […] [04:33]
There enable you to discover all of the various hypnotic phenomena.
And you never now […] handing
To employ this particular phenomena o that particular want
This matter depersonalization
This matter of that projection of the self
[in did?] you subject to see you moving screen [upware?] to see the self ware
[..] a technic for a like very much is do have movie screen
And help my patient looked him [05:05]
I can get my patient forget his name, is identity,
forget everything about himself
the way all of us do ordinarily normally in the theater
when [we are? ] observing a suspense movie [05:24]
or anything [ails?] completely absorbs [about?] [our] attention. [05:30]
have are subject look at that screen in you tell him that he is going to see
a continuous series of events [05:44]
you can have them in the form of moving pictures, or you can have them in the form of stills.
I am think of one person, a sad sack, who came to [me][beeng?], and the question was, could one ever make a man out of that sad sack
I was challenged to do that, [06:04]
to conduct psychotherapy on that man using hypnosis
and having an audience of antagonistic psychoanalysts and residents in psychiatry—
some of whom were undergoing psychoanalysis. [06:20]
The rather? simple procedure I used with the sad sack
That this
how Harvey had every known ache and pain,
every known sense of inferiority.
But how was intelligent, even [though?] he didn’t manifest much intelligence.
He was fearful,

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~and so I suggested to him that he see series of movie screens
~or crystal balls in which he would see still
~still-life pictures of tremendous importance
~I had Harvey forget his name, his identity, his age
~the fact that Harvey as a person really existed. All he was was an intelligence
~that was looking at all those things that I had scattered around
~the room for him to look at
~he saw the little boy on his way to school as a moving picture
~most of them were moving pictures. He followed the little boy to school he saw the little boy getting his hands racked by the school teacher.
~he saw the schoolteacher forcing [that] little boy
~to change from the left hand to the right hand in writing
~he saw the little boy getting punished rather brutally by the teacher
~one particular day
~he saw that boy walking home very sadly.
~and Harvey looked and commented on the paltriness of the scene.
~he saw that little boy walking home
~and reaching home, and looking into the yard over the gate.
~and there he saw the sheriffs deputy
~with a gun in his hand.
~the deputy just finished shooting the little boy’s dog
~and then he saw the little boy crying [01:45]
~and then I told him to start there and see another picture
~several years later when that same emotion would come forth
~and he saw that same boy at the age of 10
~out in the woods hunting with his brother
~and feeling terrible about killing a rabbit
~then he saw the boy
~about the age of 15 lying on the top of a ruined dam
~and thinking about all the dreadful things that can happen to human beings.
~and then he so they [a 22 you over they about] young man
~a just been turned down by a girl and felt very wretched
~and very inferior
~and then he saw that same young man
~in the same emotional state of depression
~who was walking out of a courthouse
~he’d just been divorced and felt rather suicidal and tremendously inferior.
~and then he saw the young man at the age of 28 getting discharged from the job he liked.
~and then he saw the young man at 30
~a feeling horribly wretched
~and I asked Harvey the intellect to review all of those pictures and what they probably meant
~and Harvey reviewed and analyzed them for me
~and we spoke about the thread of continuity and the repetition of traumatic experiences that goes through life.
~but Harvey didn’t know that he was talking about himself, and Harvey didn’t know that he was seeing himself.
~and I could ask him to speculate on what would happen to that young man.
~and his statement was young man if anything more like that happened to
~would undoubtedly try to commit suicide
~always on the losing end, since he had lost out on everything throughout life
~and maybe tried to commit suicide on the losing end
~but the losing end meant what [04:12]
~this is a beautiful day in March
~and he wrote that
~looked at it
~and jumped to his feet and said I can write
~clearly
~I can write legibly
~and he went around and around that group of doctors
~and demanded that everyone praise his writing.
~he was literally a jubilant little boy.
~and he was utterly embarrassing to the audience because of his jubilance
~until they recognized the tremendous force of that.
~now Harvey’s job was a fifth-rate job
~where his boss kicked him around
~Harvey did this writing, and during the rest of the evening he bragged and bragged about his excellent handwriting.
~and I suggested that he would keep that sense of accomplishment
~that sense of personal pride, with him,
~and that he would use it in every essential way.
~the next day when Harvey went to work
~he talked back to his boss for the first time
~and he demanded an increase in payment
~in his salary And he got it
~then he demanded a better desk
~Harvey drove a car to work he always parked it in a particular place in the parking lot
~and there was one other employee there always boxed him in with his car
~and that employee worked half an hour longer than Harvey and Harvey would sit and fume helplessly, Casper Milquetoast fashion,
~in his car waiting for the other guy to come [and] move
~his car
~that night Harvey went out
~and told [вич up] Listen you big lug
~I possibly could [guy?] pick a fight with you for parking your car in that nasty fashion
~you’ve done it for a long time and I’ve taken it
~we could have a fight about it, but I’d rather invite you in for a glass of beer, so let’s go inning getter? glass beer
~and talk it over [06:42]
~that was the last time that guy ever parked his car box in Harvey’s
~car for Harvey repainted his car because he felt a joy of possession in it in got new slipcovers
~he changed his restaurant for a better restaurant
~he changed his rooming house for a better rooming house.
~that surge of joy over the simple matter of writing
~his name legibly and then writing a simple sentence
~this is a beautiful day in March
~and giving him permission to feel
~that tremendous, boyish
~surge of jubilant joy
~was enough to carry him along.
~I think it would have been an error for me to tell him to go down
~and demand better pay I think been an error for me is tell him
~to tell off that guy who parked that car in the wrong fashion
~because he didn’t need
~a direction about what to do
~but he did need motivation
~and that is one of the things in psychotherapy and the use of hypnosis
~the motivation of a patient to do things.
~not the things that you necessarily think they ought to do
~but the things that they as personalities
~have the feeling that they really ought to do.
~and one usually starts with rather simple things
~because human beings are essentially, fundamentally, rather simple creatures
~and therefore, you ought to start that way and let them elaborate in accord with their own personality needs
~not in accord with your concepts of what is useful to them
~you only interfere when they try to destroy themselves. [08:52]

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~now much of hypnotic psychotherapy can be accomplished indirectly [dis agree …] with Harvey
~[and да ] use of posthypnotic suggestion
~a near? suggestion to a patient [that he ] go home today and let your unconscious mind think over all the things that have been said,
~ all the things that have been thought
~I am think of the patient [ loose?] making psychoneurotic of a reserve
~by going out into the sunlight and developing
~a very very severe rash of a arms, neck, face
~a very very severe rash
~a then claw [in] all night long to the arms and face and neck were horrible sights to look upon
~she came to me because she said every dermatologist and just pure cussedness on her part
~and over ever doctor said so
~and she stated very definitely that she expected me to tell her
~that it pure cussedness on her part.
~and I told her it wasn’t necessary for me to tell this pure cussedness
~she had already told me that [01:27]
~and I would take her word for it
~but I still was entitled to believe my own thoughts about it
~thus, I accepted what she said but at the same time
~I gave tremendous reservations.
~I still was entitled to believe my own thoughts,
~and she could believe her [01:53]
~a my suggestion to her was rather simple namely
~that she ought to enjoy as much of the sunlight as she
~wished and that she really ought to enjoy the sunlight as much as she wanted to
~I told her to go home she is a subjects word? in a medium trance
~and I told her to go home and lie down for an hour or two and let her unconscious think over
~what that mat [02:29]
~she stage? she didn’t need to, the she consciously remembered what I had said
~she [ she?] gone home
~and think over my suggestion and she [..] and [джи гогос] in sun light as matches she really wished matches she really wanted too
~hour reaction was as she [гат?] home and a [burn?]
~proceed do sit down a rest form our
~was to get up and decide do go out in garden.
~and she found self motivated to put on a very wide-brimmed hat and long sleeves.
~and she found it very enjoyable out in her yard she worked in her flower garden. [03:23]
~in the past she been told to avoid the sunlight to keep out of that
~that this [ сантс? ] always she been told shade? youself protect herself from the sunlight
~I told her to enjoy it
~what does enjoyment of the sunlight mean
~putting yourself in a situation
~where you can really enjoyment not fight against it,
~not protect yourself, but really to enjoy it.
~and she did like her flowers [may?] they were out in the sun
~and therefore she really wait? enjoy enjoyment the sunlight. [04:00]
~and that was all light actually did for her
~did you see the implications that suggestion
~I did not tell [her] to avoid the sunlight,
~I did not tell her to protect self
~I told her to enjoy it
~enjoy enjoyment of the sunlight
~would include enjoying herself post-sunlight
~enjoying herself during her sleep, enjoying herself the next day
~and All I needed to do was give her
~a motivation to enjoy the sunlight
~than she did’t have any thing [do/to?] fight against because she was a rather hostile
~antagonistic person
~rash cleared up very promptly [04:53]
~and she came in protested that I charged too high fee
~and I told her yes, my fee was high, but her enjoyment was much higher
~and why not a pay me my fee
~for the little that I have done
~she sent me a total of [same] 10 other patients
~even though she protested my high fee.
~and so I accepted her protests
~[…] accepted them on the grounds that were [ гроуборл ] to her.
~in other words, you try to accept the patient’s
~ideas
~no matter what they are, and then cry to direct them [05:42]
~now this ever to [фошью.] patients to do things
~then you regress the patients put them back to the childhood psychiatric patients
~a like to do that
~by [ I ] usual try to regress them to something pleasant, something agreeable
~and I admit that we are wasting time
~because there? not there to have the pleasant things correcting
~the very have the? unpleasant things correcting [06:18]
~but in the trance state I impress upon them
~that it is tremendously important that they realize that there are some good things in their past,
~and those good things in the past form the background
~by which to judge
~the severity of the present
~and so I use the good things their past the happy memories
~in order to train them to recover fully and completely
~the various traumatic experiences.
~and Then I have them
~recover the traumatic experiences very completely repress them have them recover them again
~repress them for the patient [07:08]
~a patient comes to you with forgotten memories
~very repressed want you get a hold of/all? them
~and relate them to the patient [o] have a patient remember them
~a patient can use again his repressive powers
~and again forget those things [07:31]
~a but if you yourself repress or create an amnesia for those things
~the patient unwittingly turning over to you the control of those traumatic experiences
~and by told [ловел вед] control do? you that [me use?] that you are at liberty
~to reproduce the thing [08:02]
~o to cover it up again, to bring it forth again, to cover it up again,
~until your patient builds up enough strength
~to face any particular issue
~and you recordnize the use of hypnosis enough?
~the is this her to get? In lessen? Material cover up again
~you are the one them that is [..]
~and the repression of the patient
~do not take over and control the situation

~now concerning there is specific hypnotic phenomena [08:46]
~matter that suggesting [беллети]
~that happen suggestions and how dose one gives suggestions
~the entirely magazine hostile? patient who comes into you’re office
~how you go [in] to deal would? that patient
~experimentally I have denied ? and clinically I have denied
~the patient can come into my office absolutely resolved? to try my patient and not to going to the trance [09:17]
~that the patient [clousen..] intending to be totally contrary
~[..] very ways of meeting that so the resistance
~I am think the doctor who came in for therapy [09:37]
~he called me long distance written new letters lissen in to move long distance … ready is letters
~I new I have exceedingly antagonistic man on my hands.
~and when [in] walked [try?] to my office his shoulders thrown back
~his jaw jutted out, he [said in? ] sat down white chair, and said now, go ahead doctor hypnotize me
~I told him [my] thought he many too many resistances [10:11]
~I [ resist?] you [given/didn’t?] care about his resistance my job was to hypnotize him
~not to make excuses would I please get going
~I told him I would
~and I proceeded to suggest that he go into a trance the man had some knowledge of hypnosis
~so I used the straightforward, domineering technique, knowing […]would be a total failure an a would domineer for about an hour [10:47]
~using the best domineering technique there? smiling at me resisting very effectively
~and I [ . ..] built up his resistance in every possible way there could
~then abruptly I said excuse me a moment
~I prepared for this, having heard him over the phone, having read his letters
~I stepped out into the other room came back with a young college girl
~a psychology student hypnotic subject to mine brought to the room said
~Elsa, I would like to have you meet Dr. S.
~Dr. S came here to be hypnotized Elsa, would you please go into deep trance right now
~so Elsa went into a deep trance I demonstrated a few hypnotic phenomena on her then I told her to sit down
~and put the doctor in do a trance and to call me
~just as soon as she had in a trance
~with I totally walked out of the room.
~fifteen minutes later, Elsa came to the door and called me back into the office
~now actually what had I done [12:09]
~the doctor had his resistances in pending of them so I centered them all on me [ when..] I walked out of the office I carried that whole load

~and furthermore how can you resist somebody who is in a trance
~who is merely responding to hypnotic suggestions in Elsa
~[вейли] used good hypnotic technique and induce a very satisfactory trance.
~very often I use that technique in training people
~to go into a trance especially resistant a subjects the patients
~because it is one/win? thing to resist me, but how can you really resist some[body] who is in a trance
~whose one and only purpose
~is to put you in a trance,
~not to make any other kind of allowances for you.
~It’s very very difficult to do that. [13:12]

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~I’ve got […] two doctors in Phoenix
~you can [ripen?] in? all night long in room going do in trance
~they are both excellent hypnotists
~and they [were] both very critical of me
~because I [couldn’t/hadn’t?] put them in a trance
~so one night I asked [have?] them to sit down facing each other
~and I told them
~doctor, you hypnotize doctor, and doctor, you hypnotize doctor
~and in that […] situation [….look that ?] each other
~and then my [ эдеб] [and way] you hypnotizing the over
~go into a trance yourself
~and really demonstrate to the other
~how deeply into a trance you want the other to go
~they both went very neatly, very deeply, into an hypnotic trance
~but of course they went in at my suggestion
~and I step to ever after they [to] put each other into a deep trance, I took charge of the situation for both of them [01:25]
~That is one technique that I think all of you ought to recognize and try out sometime because it will teach you a great deal about establishing rapport
~neither of those doctors realized that my instructions
~would result in [they] being in rapport with me after [they] put each other in a deep trance
~I quite often have my patients put into a deep trance
~by someone else, especially those patients [who are???] utterly resistant
~and [will/one/want ?] let the doctor do it [02:05]
~I usually try to get them to be as resistant toward me as can be so that I can
~gather up all their resistances
~and leaving none resistant for the person who is going to put them in a trance
~now never technique for unplanted over live the resistance subjects
~Another means by which I overcome strong resistance in my patients is the introduction of a surprise technique. Allow me to illustrate.
~one doctor come 2,000 miles for the some [propose?] so? have me put him in a trance
~he walked into my office laid a check on my desk and said this to compensate check for your time
~I heard that word time
~that check was to compensate me for my time
~any came [ready be to ?] put in a trance obviously, the check was not heart
~to compensate me for putting him in a trance,
~but just to compensate me for my time
~so I knew right then and there what he was going to do
~he did one most beautiful jobs of resisting me that I ever saw but consciously he felt that he was cooperating
~I spent two hours on the man
~using every technique that I knew of seduce in [me in do/into?] hypnosis
~but [I] failed absolutely finally I said well doctor, you’ve paid me for my time
~and that is about all I’ve been able to give you I’m awfully sorry I failed
~but before you leave, I’d like to take you out in other room and introduce you to my wife
~she would like to meet you [04:00]
~so we went out the next room I called my wife
~and stated Doctor S. was on his way home is had to leave immediately
~but he thought he would like to meet you
~and then I said and would like to shake hands before we leave doctor
~and he very graciously put out his hand and I lifted it slowly induced a deep hypnotic trance led him back into the office
~and did the work that he wanted me to do
~because you do not hypnotize a man after you say goodbye to him
~he had no defenses, no guard, no way of protecting himself
~and when I reached out to shake came is [hands?] goodbye
~and slowly, gently, suggestibly lifted his arm
~and inducing catalepsy
~I given more …. all the other suggestions wait going into a deep trance previously
~and all took effect
~so to get back in the offices and spent a couple hours more with him
~correcting some difficulties that had prevented him from using hypnosis for over 15 years
~[start this out] his practice using hypnosis
~run into a traumatic personal experience and thereafter could not induce hypnosis
~this terrified afraid was [офли флайт ] in buyer
~but after I induced that trance
~unexpectedly an him
~than you returned to his practice
~and began using hypnosis extensively
~in other words, one of the things I’ve mentioned [to use] this matter of surprise technique
~one always tries to use whatever a patient brings into the office
~… похоже вырезано
~if they bring resistance in be grateful for that resistance
~нeap it up in whatever fashion they want you to
~really pile it up.
~but never get disgusted with the amount of resistance
~that doctor certainly had plenty of resistance unconsciously [06:31]
~when for two hours I did everything I could to put him into a trance
~and then when I took him out into the other room to introduce him to Mrs. Erickson
~his resistances had been piled up and left in the office
~one really ought to recognize that
~now this may seem as if I’m using anthropomorphic thinking
~but it’s an easy way of conceptualizing these matters
~whatever the patient presents to you in the office, you really ought to use
~If they prevent you from hypnotizing them
~by sighing[crying?] or giggling or by shifting around
~in the chair or do any number of things why not utilize it

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~one of my patients demanded that I hypnotized [my/night agreed be read] shoot? be hypnotize
~insisted on beating time with his foot
~first his right foot, then his left foot, then his right hand, then his left hand
~and [a that?] geting up the? stretch himself [a] settle himself want? comfortably
~all I did the matter of hypnotizing him
~was to note when he was about to shift right foot to the left foot
~and when it was too late for him to change
~give him the suggestion that he shifting from right foot to the left foot
~and then [this?] shifting from the left foot to the right hand
~I’d [do?] [would] note just for use about [set] to do that
~and then suggest that he use his right hand now,
~and then his left hand
~and now use about time for [you] to get up [in] and stretch
~what difference to did it make to me whether I was inducing hand levitation, moving laterally, medially, laterally up down
~all whether he wanted [is ?] beat time with hands and feet get up and stretch [01:17]
~if you wanted that type of behavior let him have it
~but I really ought to be willing to use it
~if he wants to laugh at my [technique/ тайпелли] my suggestions,
~encourage him to laugh,
~and gently suggest at now here is another suggestion
~you will probably find very, very, funny
~But then again I may be mistaken, and you may not find it funny at all [01:50]
~I really can’t tell
~and so I’ve covered all possibilities
~He may find it funny he may not find it funny at all
~but then I really don’t know
~he’ll have to demonstrate to me
~whether it is funny or unfunny,
~any doesn’t [now] that he is obeying my suggestion
~that he demonstrate that it is funny or unfunny [02:16]

~you merely observe ordinary behavior and [your?] perfectly willing to use it
~I have patients come in and spend their time
~aa [mere] cursing at me
because I think that I am such and such and such and such hypnotist
~and I tell them [yes] that’s right, I do think I am such and such [an?] hypnotist
~and here are a couple of more words that you could really have added
~and [made did] the much more emphatic statement
~and I can suggest even stronger words
~ and they can accept [whose] the first thing they know they are accepting other words
~and it’s very easy to meet them at their own level
~a too often the tendency and a part the operator to think that he must correct the immediate behavior of the patient
~one does an really take that attitude
~one takes the attitude that the patient is there to benefit eventually
~and eventually perhaps in a day, a week, a month, six months,
~but within some reasonable period
~not in the immediate moment
~too often the tendency is made to correct the immediate behavior and a patient really needs to show you that particular behavior

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